Whatever is bound on EARTH is already Loosed in Heaven

by Alex Williams in

when a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..in such judicial deliberations, jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.” .

psalm 127:3.. children are a sacred trust, “an inheritance from jehovah.

jws abhor child abuse and view it as a crime.its recognized that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes.jws do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities as has been alleged.

Alex Williams

So if one is truly repentant he should still be DFd,JWs is committed to saving people not just getting rid of sinners of which we all are

.Look at in the OT Manasseh who as undoubtedly the worst king of Judah ever,

Yet after he was taken captive he humbled himself to God in prayer,calling out to Jehovah for help But he went further. He then turned his life course around by getting rid of the idolatrous images that he had set up, making efforts to serve Jehovah, and even encouraging his people to do the same.

What was Jehovah’s response to Manasseh’s prayers? God forgave Manasseh and restored him to the kingship in Jerusalem

Why because he was repentant , God is willing to forgive even gross sins if the sinner is truly repentant.This thread shows he knows the heart of a person not elders who are human and cant read what a person truly is, thats why

"When a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven Jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..

In such judicial deliberations, Jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.”

"Jehovah is a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger pardoning error and transgression and sin"

Adam the first man brought all of this on his offspring sin and wickekness pain ,sorrow

and death for his sin that's why after this world of unrepentant sinners and unbelievers who fail to respond to the good news of Gods incoming Kingdom and convert are removed from this earth those who survive his fierce anger will be in the same conditions literally a paradise as well as the same as Adam was both physically in mind and body perfect sinless just like he was.

God understands none of us were there when he sold his offspring into sin ,we had no choice because we were not there but have to suffer for what he did.

This is the reason the one behind all of the trouble we are in today was not removed when all of the wicked humans were but just restrained to be released.

When we are perfect just like the first man was at some point that one who was removed will be let go to test perfect mankind all over again,no longer under Adamic sin but standing on their own merit and cant blame Adam no longer.

Rev 20

And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss+ and a great chain in his hand. 2 He seized the dragon,+ the original serpent,+ who is the Devil+ and Satan,+ and bound him for 1,000 years. 3 And he hurled him into the abyss+ and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not mislead the nations anymore until the 1,000 years were ended.

After this he must be released for a little while.+Now as soon as the 1,000 years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison, 8 and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth,

Some can read this and think its a fairy-tale and ignore the warning and continue to heap insults but it doesnt change whats coming :

Jeremiah 25:33 (WYC)

And the slain men of the Lord shall be in that day from the end of the earth unto the end thereof; they shall not be bewailed, neither shall be gathered together, neither shall be buried; they shall lie into a dunghill on the face of [the] earth. (And on that day, the people killed by the Lord shall lie flat on the earth from one end to the other; they shall not be bewailed, nor shall they be gathered together, nor shall they be buried, but they shall lie upon the face of the earth like a mound of dung.)

Its your choice repent or perish

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Whatever is bound on EARTH is already Loosed in Heaven

by Alex Williams in

when a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..in such judicial deliberations, jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.” .

psalm 127:3.. children are a sacred trust, “an inheritance from jehovah.

jws abhor child abuse and view it as a crime.its recognized that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes.jws do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities as has been alleged.

Alex Williams

Any JWs judicial deliberations are theocratic and not privy to the pubic as sharing in the knowledge of decisions or sins committed by individuals.

Sexual abuse cases are reported to secular authorities if required by local laws or as instructed by the local branch office. Victims in the congregation have the right to report an accusation of child abuse to the police,covering up would entail preventing victims from going to the police.JWs organization is a theocracy.

The term theocracy signifies belief in governance by divine guidance, a form of regime in which religion or faith plays the dominant role. It denotes thus a political unit governed by a deity or by officials thought to be divinely guided. The word theocracy originates from the Greek theokratia.

In this case Jehovah is the deity who guides and directs his visible organization.

Deut 32
Vengeance is mine, and retribution,+At the appointed time when their foot slips,+For the day of their disaster is near,And what awaits them will come quickly.’

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Whatever is bound on EARTH is already Loosed in Heaven

by Alex Williams in

when a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..in such judicial deliberations, jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.” .

psalm 127:3.. children are a sacred trust, “an inheritance from jehovah.

jws abhor child abuse and view it as a crime.its recognized that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes.jws do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities as has been alleged.

Alex Williams

When a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven Jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..

In such judicial deliberations, Jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.”

Psalm 127:3.

Children are a sacred trust, “an inheritance from Jehovah

JWs abhor child abuse and view it as a crime.Its recognized that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes.JWs do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities as has been alleged.
Victims and their parents have the right to report an accusation of child abuse to the authorities

All such cases are reported to the branch office

Child abuse is a serious sin. If an alleged abuser is a member of the congregation, an investigation is conducted according to Scriptural instructions ,any
member of the congregation who is an unrepentant child abuser is expelled from the congregation and is no longer considered one of JWs. If on the other hand If it is determined that one guilty of child sexual abuse is repentant they will remain in the congregation
How that is determined is clear by Jesus own words :

"where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.”

They are guilty but not worthy of removal from the congregation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_abuse

Reporting to civil authorities

Cases of alleged abuse are reported to secular authorities if required by local laws or as instructed by the local branch office.

A press release issued in 2002 by Jehovah's Witnesses' Office of Public Information stated: "In addition to making a report to the branch office, the elders may be required by law to report even uncorroborated or unsubstantiated allegations to the authorities. If so, the elders receive proper legal direction to ensure that they comply with the law."[7] The Watchtower has outlined the following policy: "Depending on the law of the land where he lives, the molester may well have to serve a prison term or face other sanctions from the State. The congregation will not protect him from this."[6] A 2002 memo to all congregations stated: "Our position is that secular authorities deal with crime while elders deal with sin."[8] Even where there is no mandatory reporting requirement, victims or others having knowledge of an incident of sexual abuse must not be discouraged from reporting it.

JWs are being accused of covering up child sexual abuse but where is this really coming from

Rev 12-7

And war broke out in heaven: Miʹcha·el*+ and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but they did not prevail,* nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon+ was hurled, the original serpent,+ the one called Devil+ and Satan,+ who is misleading the entire inhabited earth;+ he was hurled down to the earth,

I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come to pass the salvation+ and the power and the Kingdom of our God+ and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God!

Satan is an accuser ,he was that in heaven before his ouster and continues today while on the earth,with that said I'm not saying there were no mistakes made by imperfect men who handled sexual abuse but as a whole the organization is committed to feeding Christ sheep and caring for their needs as a loving Shepard entrusted with the feeding of his the Kings sheep.

Christ is depicted with 7 stars in his right hand

Rev 1-16 NWT
And he had in his right hand seven stars

These are his shepherds as Head of the congregation, Christ has full control of the bodies of elders. If someone on a body truly needs correction, the One who has “eyes as a fiery flame” will see to it that this is done in His own time and way.

Meanwhile the Devils religious system is nearing collapse:

Revelation

Thus with a swift pitch will Babylon the great city be hurled down, and she will never be found again.+ 22 And the sound of singers who accompany themselves on the harp, of musicians, of flutists, and of trumpeters will never be heard in you again. And no craftsman who practices any trade will ever be found in you again, and no sound of a millstone will ever be heard in you again. 23 No light of a lamp will ever shine in you again, and no voice of a bridegroom and of a bride will ever be heard in you again;

and no voice of a bridegroom and of a bride will ever be heard in you again;

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Who else provides all this spiritual food?

by StephaneLaliberte in

two days ago, i experienced a spiritual epiphany while visiting the library of a catholic university: i was shocked to find thousands of religious literatures produced by the catholics and protestants in the last few hundred years.

someone could easily spend a secluded lifetime trying to read them all.

for years, i was told by my religious leaders (jws) that the catholics and other religions did not provide spiritual food to their members.

Alex Williams

"For years, I was told by my religious leaders (JWs) that the Catholics and other religions did not provide spiritual food to their members"

They provide spiritual food but where is the source coming from is the question you should have asked.

The scriptures are clear the preachers provide food but its JUNK food from teaching of Demons:

1 Tim 4-1

Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons.

. "The Catholics easily out do the JWs library by thousands of books!!"

And Catholics murdered anyone who tried to translate the scriptures from the dead language of Latin ,keeping people in the dark of its false teaching of Demons

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tyndale

Tyndale's translation was the first English Bible to draw directly from Hebrew and Greek texts, the first English translation to use Jehovah ("Iehouah") as God's name as preferred by English Protestant Reformers,[4] t

It was taken to be a direct challenge to the hegemony of both the Catholic Church and the laws of England maintaining the church's position. In 1530

He was murdered by the Catholic Church for his translating the bible

He was convicted of heresy and executed by strangulation, after which his body was burnt at the stake. His dying prayer was that the King of England's eyes would be opened.

https://www.historyextra.com/period/medieval/murderous-history-bible-translations-catholic-murder-version-who-wrote-when/

John Wycliffe,The papacy, he believed, reeked of corruption and self-interest. He was determined to do something about it.Wycliffe began publishing pamphlets arguing that, rather than pursuing wealth and power, the church should have the poor at heart. In one tract he described the Pope as “the anti-Christ, the proud, worldly priest of Rome, and the most cursed of clippers and cut-purses”

Wycliffe firmly believed that the Bible should be available to everybody. He saw literacy as the key to the emancipation of the poor. Although parts of the Bible had previously been rendered into English there was still no complete translation. Ordinary people, who neither spoke Latin nor were able to read, could only learn from the clergy. Much of what they thought they knew – ideas like the fires of hell and purgatory – were not even part of Scripture.

With the aid of his assistants, therefore, Wycliffe produced an English Bible,a bill was placed before parliament to outlaw the English Bible and to imprison anyone possessing a copy.After his death the church resumed its persecution of the now-dead Wycliffe [he died in 1384].

Shorn of alternatives, the best they could do was to burn his bones [in 1427], just to make sure his resting place was not venerated. The Archbishop of Canterbury explained that Wycliffe had been “that pestilent wretch, of damnable memory, yea, the forerunner and disciple of antichrist who, as the complement of his wickedness, invented a new translation of the scriptures into his mother-tongue”.

In 1427, Pope Martin ordered that John Wycliffe’s bones be exhumed from their grave, burned and cast into the river Swift. Wycliffe had been dead for 40 years

With this murderous background of the Church one has to ask or should wonder about its translation,obviously God was not behind the church burning people who just translated scripture ,yet this was the food they were and still today feeding the ignorant ones who failed to heed the command to get out of false religion.

New American Standard Bible Rev 18-4
I heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;

The instrument that feeds spiritual food is the KingJames Bible

An article in the Look Magazine in 1952 exposed the Catholic Church translation saying it contained at least 50,000 errors that's fifty thousand

This was the actual magazine

"Who else provides all this spiritual food?"

JWs

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Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

by Alex Williams in

this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

[and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

Alex Williams

1914 was pointed toward world change

The Time Is at Hand (1889 ed.)several years before 1914

the great "time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation," will reach its culmination" The Time Is at Hand (1889 ed.) page 77 - page 78
"the Day of Vengeance ... will end in October, 1914"

Thy Kingdom Come (1911 ed.) p.228 3 years before 1914

"the deliverance of the saints must take place some time before 1914"

Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99

we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D.1914."

Watch Tower 1911 Jun 15

"October, 1914, will witness the full end of Babylon"

The Zions Watchtower knew from bible chronology 1914 would bring a change the Gentile times would end in 1914 so logically they expected the actual end of this present world,they understood Satan the Devil would be ousted in 1914 as the great war would break out in heaven since Christ would become King

Rev 11 NWT

And there were loud voices in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world has become the Kingdom of our Lord+ and of his Christ,But the nations became wrathful

Rev 12 NWT
And war broke out in heaven: Miʹcha·el*+ and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but they did not prevail,* nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon+ was hurled, the original serpent,+ the one called Devil+ and Satan,+ who is misleading the entire inhabited earth;+ he was hurled down to the earth,+ and his angels were hurled down with him.

On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea,+ because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger

Woe
great sorrow or distress, sadness, unhappiness, heartache, heartbreak, despondency, desolation, despair, dejection, depression, gloom, melancholy,sorrows," "stresses," or "troubles,

affliction, agony, anguish, distress, excruciation, hurt, misery, pain, rack, strait(s), torment, torture, travail, tribulation

World war 1 in 1914 brought all these woes to the earth just as Rev 12 predicted

What happened next after the Devil was ousted from heaven :

Rev 12 -17 NWT

So the dragon became enraged at the woman and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her offspring,*+ who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness concerning Jesus.+

Since he couldnt cause any more problems in heaven his target was

Who were these?

Zions Watchtower

Joseph Rutherford
Warrants were issued for the arrest of Rutherford and seven other Watch Tower directors, who were charged under the 1917 Espionage Act of attempting to cause insubordination, disloyalty, refusal of duty in the armed forces and obstructing the recruitment and enlistment service of the U.S. while it was at war.[65] On June 21 seven of them, including Rutherford, were sentenced to 20 years' imprisonment

The Watchtower accurately predicted 1914 as the end of the gentile times but that didn't culminate in the anointed going to heaven and the end of this present world

they didn't understand the passage as the beginning of distress not the end of troubles

Matt 24 NWT
8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.

At the time didn't understand Jesus comparison of his presence and the days of Noah

Matt 24 NWT
For just as the days of Noah were,+ so the presence* of the Son of man will be.

This passage shows his presence lasts for many years from 1914 until the end since the days of Noah were decades before the world wide destruction then his presence would be decades as well.

This verse eliminates the disciples asking about his coming since his coming would be a one day event where those saved would be ushered to heaven that same day and it wouldnt take decades like the days of Noah ,so coming dont harmonize with the long time period of Noah only presence does.

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Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

by Alex Williams in

this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

[and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

Alex Williams

"Prove it! Stop using the bible"

Long before 1914 the group known then as Millennial Dawners/JWs in the 1800 warned to watch out for a marked year from the bible chronology of 1914.

The first few months of 1914 the clergy and others poured considerable ridicule upon C. T. Russell and the Watch Tower Society for failing to see anything happening to the Gentile nations as they were well into the year 1914 with nothing happening.

But all this ridicule stopped when nation after nation and kingdom after kingdom began cascading into what now is called the first world war 1914 as predicted 40 years before it happened by the Zions Watchtower.

August 30, 1914,a leading New York city newspaper called The World.

"New York World. The New York World was a newspaper published in New York City from 1860 until 1931. The paper played a major role in the history of American newspapers. It was a leading national voice of the Democratic Party"

On August 30, 1914, the arresting headline “End of All Kingdoms in 1914” blazed across page 4 of the Sunday magazine section of The World, a leading New York newspaper.

“The terrific war outbreak in Europe has fulfilled an extraordinary prophecy,” stated this feature article. “For a quarter of a century past, through preachers and through press, the ‘International Bible Students [Jehovah’s Witnesses],’ best known as ‘Millennial Dawners,’ have been proclaiming to the world that the Day of Wrath prophesied in the Bible would dawn in 1914. ‘Look out for 1914!’ has been the cry of the hundreds of traveling evangelists who, representing this strange creed, have gone up and down the country enunciating the doctrine that ‘the Kingdom of God is at hand.’”

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Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

by Alex Williams in

this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

[and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

Alex Williams

1 Corinthians 15:21-23 NWT

But each one in his own proper order: Christ the firstfruits,e afterward those who belong to the Christ during his presence.

Any anointed Christians [144,000] die during Christ’s presence, they are resurrected to heavenly life.

When did this COMING/PRESENCE begin

What were his disciples actually asking at

Matt 24 KJV
Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Obviously they didn't ask what will be the sign of your coming because it doesn't harmonize with his appointing a Slave to feed his people at his return;

Matt 24-45 NIV
Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns

If they actually asked about his coming [which has not occurred as per Churches of Christendom] then no faithful and wise servant/Slave has been appointed since he has not returned therefore his sheep are not spiritually fed and have starved from the lack of spiritual food

Matt 4-4 NWT
“It is written: ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from Jehovah’s* mouth.’”+

Matt 24-3

Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence*

state or fact of existing, occurring, or being present,a person or thing that exists or is present in a place but is not seen.Presence is not a verb, but, as a noun, it can mean a state of being,

What presence were they asking had to be about his being present in kingdom power since they were concerned about earthly kingship in Israel:

Acts 1
After he had suffered, he showed himself alive to them by many convincing proofs.+ He was seen by them throughout 40 days, and he was speaking about the Kingdom of God.So when they had assembled, they asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?”

In other words are you going to now after you have died and was resurrected going to set up the Kingdom right here on earth over in Jerusalem.

This is in reference to the question they asked in Matt 24 about his Kingdom presence not coming.

Jesus actually pointed forward to the actual date his Kingdom would be established alerting all that his Kingdom presence had taken effect as 1914

Matt 24-7 NWT
"For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom"

This is a Jewish idiom used in rabbinical literature for a world war

This is consistent with Jewish writings of the first century. One Jewish source known as the Zohar Chadash states: At that time wars shall be stirred up in the world. Nation shall be against nation and city against city; much distress shall be renewed against the enemies of the Israelites.

Another Jewish source known as the Bereshit Rabbah states: If you shall see the kingdoms rising against each other in turn, then give heed and note the footsteps of the Messiah.

So World War I was a sign that the birth pains had begun. And nearly all historians agree that World War II was merely a continuation of World I.

So his presence began in 1914 his Kingdom began in 1914 and all the events depicted in Revelation began 1919 as well as appointing a Slave to fed his sheep

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Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

by Alex Williams in

this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

[and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

Alex Williams

"Instead some of us lost our families and friends"

Jesus warned of this when he clearly said:

49I have come to ignite a fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled,Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but division.…

37Anyone who loves his father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me;

One had to prove he is worthy of the King

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Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

by Alex Williams in

this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

[and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

Alex Williams

'If in fact in 1919 the faithful slave was chosen as God’s channel on earth, and Christ Jesus, the Master approved of them, why is it that we do not still teach the things taught back then? Why are they considered, "old light"? Yet it was considered truth for that time. Truth does not revert back to falsehood if it was indeed truth to begin with. Why has the slave rejected what the master had approved of?"

The truth never EVER changes but the understanding of that truth has and will continue right to the END,
its like the bright morning light that grows brighter and brighter.

Proverbs 4:18 NWT
But the path of the righteous is like the bright morning light

That grows brighter and brighter until full daylight.+

I addressed this before as to why the understanding has evolved over the years,

does the passage say :
the path of the righteous is like the a bright morning light,that's its brightest in the morning as well as daylight?

NO,its gradual progression ,brighter and brighter suggest learning and understanding in stages not full knowledge from the beginning,How can it be expected Zions Watchtower

have complete understanding of Gods will when the apostles who were with Jesus didnt completely understand his teachings even after he died and was resurrected?

Example:

Jesus said over and over his Kingdom was New Jerusalem in heaven not the earthy city in Israel,in fact he predicted the temple would be destroyed as proof.

New Living Translation John 18:36
Jesus answered, “My Kingdom is not an earthly kingdom. If it were, my followers would fight to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish leaders. But my Kingdom is not of this world.”

Yet his followers asked this question after Jesus was resurrected

Acts 1-6 NIV

Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?”

Why would they ask this question about an earthly Kingdom over in Israel in view of his constant teaching about his heavenly New Jerusalem?

Because they didnt understand fully about New Jerusalem and they wanted relief right then from Roman rule,they had no idea Jesus was leaving soon to set up his heavenly Kingdom.

There are other instances when they didnt fully understand his teaching and would privately ask Jesus what he meant .

So the Slave in 1919 after leaving false religious teachings of Satan should have understood Jehovah's truths from the very beginning when Jesus followers who were right there with the great teacher didnt fully understand some of his basic teachings

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Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

by Alex Williams in

this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

[and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

Alex Williams

"Deut. 18:20-22 ~ "20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken""

An Old Testament prophet's role was not to predict the future always but to proclaim the word of Jehovah to the people as given to him by God himself.

The prophet's primary role was to communicate the truth about God, to warn His people of their accountability to God and of the impending consequences of their actions whether positive or negative.

Jeremiah 35:15
However, I have spoken to you again and again,* but you have not obeyed me.+ 15 And I kept sending all my servants the prophets to you, sending them again and again

Speculation is not the same as prediction,
Prediction means that you have evidence to back up your idea. Speculation is a prediction without evidence or very little evidence.

Speculation about dates doesnt mean they were predictions of future events and the speculator never claimed to be inspired of God

Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers.

Alex Williams

Posts by Alex Williams

Reporting to civil authorities

"Who else provides all this spiritual food?"

JWs

1 Corinthians 15:21-23 NWT